S1
E9
47 mins
Feb 16, 2026
Anti-Slop Manifesto: How Flora Thinks About AI
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Weber Wong was supposed to be a venture capitalist. Then he realized he wouldn't back himself, so he quit, moved to New York, and got a job at a coffee shop.
Now he's building Flora, one of the most uniquely-positioned AI tools for creative teams.
We talked about why node-based tools have such a bad reputation (and how Flora's fixing it), what "anti-slop" actually means when you're building AI creative tools, and the moment Pentagram reached out and he realized he'd accidentally built something useful.
Flora: https://flora.ai
Weber Wong: https://x.com/weberwongwong
Chapters
[00:00] - "They've been cooking"
[02:11] - From VC to coffee shop to Flora
[05:37] - The pain cave vs. Plato's cave
[08:38] - Poetry as the entry point
[11:34] - First time using an LLM
[13:26] - "The world's most powerful creative operating system"
[16:21] - Commerce vs. art — does it have to be at odds?
[19:12] - A Berkeley professor and Cat's Cradle
[20:25] - Fine-tuning GPT-2 on his own poetry
[25:42] - Why node-based?
[28:50] - The iceberg: low barrier, high ceiling
[32:56] - What "anti-slop" actually means
[40:48] - When Pentagram reached out
[44:51] - Advice for the next generation of creatives








