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E20

61 mins

Apr 28, 2026

This is Design At The Most AI-Installed Company: Diego Zaks

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Diego Zaks runs design at Ramp, the most AI-installed company in the world. Not kidding — Anthropic showed up at their office because they were using Claude Code more than Anthropic was.

We talk about how Ramp got there, how design changes when everyone is a builder, what AI fluency means inside their company, and what he thinks design becomes five years from here.

CHAPTERS
  • 00:00 - The AI-Installed Company

  • 03:50 - The Slack Engineer Who Wasn't Human

  • 10:16 - The 4 Levels of AI Fluency

  • 13:27 - Make Everyone a Designer

  • 22:17 - How Ramp Hit 99.5% Installed

  • 28:54 - Anthropic Flew to the Office

  • 31:47 - Glass: Why Build Your Own AI

  • 49:30 - What Design Becomes in 5 Years

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