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S1
E15
40 mins
Mar 30, 2026
Design Has Never Been More in Demand. So Why Can't Juniors Get Hired?
Josh Puckett went goblin mode for four weeks to ship Interface Craft — a course where you pick a library card, sign your name on it, and insert it into a web interface that unlocks everything behind it.
He's been designing for close to 20 years. Dropbox. Wealthfront. He's mentored and placed hundreds of designers through Upper Study. He invests into early-stage tools companies through Combine VC.
We talk phantom competency, uncommon care, why a chef who cooks one new dish a week should probably find a different career, and whether "AI native" is a real skill or just the new "mobile designer."
LINKS
Interface Craft: https://interfacecraft.dev/
Upper Study: https://upperstudy.com
Josh Puckett: https://x.com/joshpuckett
Chapters
00:00 - "You have to demonstrate high slope"
01:53 - Coming out of the Interface Craft launch
04:03 - Goblin mode & going dark to build
08:22 - Phantom competency & AI as apprenticeship
12:32 - Uncommon effort vs. uncommon taste
19:18 - "AI native" is just the new "mobile designer"
21:50 - High slope: what it looks like
25:47 - What to do with the anxiety
29:31 - Uncommon care: just give a shit
37:30 - Product design is not art







